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I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.
B. Obama
Is Bristol Palin being "punished" with the gift of a precious life?
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If I were the father, a high school senior without a good job and not willing to be tied down - I would feel punished.
If I were Mr. Palin, I would feel punished.
I wouldn't feel punished, I would feel blessed.
Blessed that God would chose to bring life into our world, blessed that God chose to work such a miracle.
That doesn't mean that the situation wouldn't be difficult. It is difficult, no question. But blessings aren't necessarily easy, and grace -- although free -- is never cheap.
Of course not. That is strictly contrary to Catholic doctrine.
However:
(1) Catholic doctrine also says that any form of sex outside marriage is a mortal sin. Just because Bristol is not being punished does not mean she has not sinned grievously (if she is indeed illegitimately pregnant -- I have only the media to go on for that one). Neither does it mean that this event will not have sad consequences. Sin is not a family value.
(2) Terry, I'm sure that Bristol's father and her boyfriend feel punished. So will any number of other people that this event touches.
(3) The circumstances will make it most difficult for Bristol and her boyfriend to form a stable marriage -- even with much monetary assistance from the family. Clearly, neither of these two children (under 18) has behaved responsibly. Any mental health professional, priest, pastor, etc. will advise that divorce is the likely outcome. That too is not a family value. In the event of divorce, then the child will be raised by a single parent -- another bad outcome.
(4) Finally, to paraphrase only slightly, "...One that ruleth well [her] own house, having [her] children in subjection with all chastity. But if a [wo]man know not how to rule [her] own house, how shall [s]he take care of the [USA}?"
Ms. Palin also behaved very irresponsibly in permitting herself to get pregnant after her 40th birthday. If elected, she would be only a heartbeat from the oval office -- the heartbeat of a 72 year old man. No insurance company or handicapper is going to give you long odds on that one.
We are paying for 8 years of irresponsibility right now. Do we really want to buy any more?
Terry - If that is the case than maybe the young man should have "kept his zipper up" as my Mom used to say.
Well, Terry - what's done is done and I hope they make a go of it. My brother was just a wee bit older when he got married (and was happy to get married and welcome the baby). They had a pretty good marriage until my bro went off the deep end.
Terry - I guess I have to agree on that point but 17 and 18 year olds never think they are going to get caught.
Terry - the rules are for everyone. That's why we are so blessed to have Confession available to us. Damn - we wouldn't need priests or the Church if no one ever sinned.
I figured out eons ago that the worst sins were the ones concerning how we treated other people. If you look at the two great commandments that contain the whole law - Love God, love your neighbor - getting pregnant out of wedlock falls a bit down the list. Unless...........you ditch the Mom, beat the cr_p out of her, or abort the baby.
Agreed - but if we were sitting in your kitchen talking - you would know what I'm saying.
I was wrong in my comments. I made a mistake.
Terry - you were NOT wrong. It was your opinion and it was not mean spirited or even necessarily wrong. I agreed with you on many points. You need to quit beating up on yourself.
That's easy for me to say 'cause I'm pure as the driven snow -- doncha know?
One wonders if Sen. Obama's mother feels "punished"...
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=767039
Given that she was 17 and unmarried when she conceived a man who has the potential to be the next POTUS.
Maybe this is just self-loathing?
If momma Obama indeed was unmarried when she becames pregnant with Barack (again, I have no personal knowledge of this), then all the above remarks we've been applying to Bristol simply apply to her as well.
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