tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post6130197672639486463..comments2024-01-08T03:45:58.976-08:00Comments on Adrienne's Corner: The 12 Steps for Catholics ~part 1~Adriennehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-49786096298991585782011-05-05T14:19:52.860-07:002011-05-05T14:19:52.860-07:00Beautiful! Thanks so much for having the courage t...Beautiful! Thanks so much for having the courage to tell your story in such a public venue. I will be praying for you and your family as you enter the next few weeks - for protection from evil and many more graces to fill your days.<br />I love one of Scott Peck's lines - "To be alive is to be addicted." Not that I know anything about that.<br />Many blessings.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13078997308616905319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-26482520679881182042011-05-05T08:10:53.487-07:002011-05-05T08:10:53.487-07:00Beautiful brave woman! Bravo!Beautiful brave woman! Bravo!Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220512226096382610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-45698193774056224672010-01-10T03:14:47.910-08:002010-01-10T03:14:47.910-08:00Adrienne,
Thanks for this post, I look forward to...Adrienne,<br /><br />Thanks for this post, I look forward to reading the rest of the series. It's funny how "birds of a feather, flock together" so to speak. I can relate so well to this post. Although my parents were not alcoholic, I had aunts and uncles on both sides of my family who were. My mom became addicted to prescription drugs when I was quite young, due to what I have later come to believe was the result of grief and depression from 2 miscarriages. My dad was your typical co-dependent.<br /><br />Although I drank alcoholically for 15 years or so, and at one time I thought I was an alcoholic, I have since come to know I am not an alcoholic, but certainly am very co-dependent. <br /><br />After 18 years of marriage and finally hitting bottom, I vividly recall kneeling at Sunday Mass and crying out to God to "help us". Less than a week later he did when my husband entered treatment on September 17, 1991. We are friends of Bill W and Lois and we have not had a drink since. It has been tough and the first 5 years of sobriety were worse for both of us than the active drinking years.<br /><br />Although it was my Catholic faith and commitment to God that led me to not divorce (for all the good that would have done) and ultimately to seek help for my co-dependence first through Alanon and then a brief time of individual counseling. It was really AA and Alanon that led me to a deeper intimacy with the Church. Many of our AA crowd are Catholic and many of the meetings are held at Catholic Churches. <br /><br />When my mother-in-law passed away in 2001, my husband and I were graced with a very spontaneous and deep reversion to our Faith. We are both finally at peace and know we have experienced many graces through the Sacrament of Marriage.<br /><br />Of our two boys who have lapsed from the Faith, one seems to be having relationship problems to the point he has chosen to no longer have a place in his life for us. The other one seems to have some problems with drinking.<br /><br />I know this comment is long and I do apologize but I have just a few more items to mention. Our anniversary is July 21, (1973), and I love to garden, although I am not a Master Gardener by any means. For a very long time I have wanted to write my conversion story and reading this post has nudged me a little further along into actually making the commitment to do it.<br /><br />Finally for Tom above, there are a lot of AA meetings in my area that are held at Catholic parishes, maybe he can find some in his area. I would think it would be hard to develop the type of relationship needed to maintain a recovery program surrounded by those who are bashing my Faith...in fact for me personally if you bash the Church (my Mother) I take it as a personal attack against me. It would either have to stop...somehow, or would have to find other meetings, it's that simple.<br /><br />Thanks again for this post and your wisdom!<br /><br />God bless you!<br /><br />An after thought, have you visited Fr Emmerich Vogt's website at http://www.12-step-review.org/?Pattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02047433361667284896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-87748084293970198932009-08-26T20:35:24.190-07:002009-08-26T20:35:24.190-07:00Tom - Find a new meeting, if possible. If not, you...Tom - Find a new meeting, if possible. If not, you will have to weigh the good parts against the bad and decide if you really need to be putting up with that.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-43225300710049399872009-08-26T17:34:21.511-07:002009-08-26T17:34:21.511-07:00I have been in AA for 20 years and the Catholic ba...I have been in AA for 20 years and the Catholic bashing in getting worse and worse in the rooms.<br />What do you suggest?<br /><br />Thanks, <br />tomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-74571806628752671662009-03-29T17:22:00.000-07:002009-03-29T17:22:00.000-07:00Hi Adrienne,I knew that there was something specia...Hi Adrienne,<BR/><BR/>I knew that there was something special about you. I am an alcoholic/addict. I have 4-1/2 years in recovery. My recovery is what led me to the Catholic faith. I will become an official Catholic at the Easter vigil!<BR/><BR/>I look forward to going through the steps on your site.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>Hugs,<BR/><BR/>KarenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00476465777711378541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-1770849408852457232009-03-22T17:05:00.000-07:002009-03-22T17:05:00.000-07:00"Without being aware I was doing so, I surrounded ..."Without being aware I was doing so, I surrounded myself with people who made it possible to drink without being conspicuous."<BR/><BR/>We're pretty good at that. Thanks for the posting, I'll be checking back later for the remaining Steps.Subvethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523683273450353313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-41986768234398301782008-04-01T19:37:00.000-07:002008-04-01T19:37:00.000-07:00wonderfully written...I can really identify with w...wonderfully written...I can really identify with what you went thru... I have an interesting tale to tell as well....<BR/><BR/>Thank God for AA, that's all I can say!Scott M. Freyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11588618061480681504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-45648228512758363092008-03-30T02:41:00.000-07:002008-03-30T02:41:00.000-07:00Thanks, Adrienne, wonderful Part I. I attended Nar...Thanks, Adrienne, wonderful Part I. I attended NarAnon for drug users as part of my formation as a priest. The struggle is always, initially ... my name is N. and I'm drug dependant, alcoholic, or whatever. How strangely 'lovely' it is to hear people admit their 'sin' or addiction. Thanks.Fr John Speekmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05608397414319202513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-51672151304977224282008-03-26T21:08:00.000-07:002008-03-26T21:08:00.000-07:00Jackie - calm down. One day at a time.Tom - we're ...Jackie - calm down. One day at a time.<BR/><BR/>Tom - we're all addicted to something. Just look at you and your beans. Scary<BR/><BR/>Kelly - you are on the right path, Just don't be too hard on yourself<BR/><BR/>whitestone - how exciting.<BR/><BR/>Jennifer - I pray for you all the time since I have a bit of what you have.<BR/><BR/>Tara - "met" a friend of yours from your church. He'll probalbly reveal himself. We agree that you're pretty neat.<BR/><BR/>Diane - dry drunks are so insidious. At least with us active, fun loving, drink everything in sight peeps there is an outward manifestation of an inward sickness. With a dry drunk you’re never sure what the hell is going on.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-34460394460959606422008-03-26T15:19:00.000-07:002008-03-26T15:19:00.000-07:00Wow, what a story! And how courageous you are to t...Wow, what a story! And how courageous you are to tell it!!!!<BR/><BR/>I had no idea about "dry drunks" and the effects on other generations of this disease. <BR/><BR/>I pray for those who suffer this cross, any kind of addiction from nicotine to food to soap operas.<BR/><BR/>Yep, Tom is right...you have such a wisdom.xxxxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08568937298222307017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-84000633550182406292008-03-26T14:39:00.000-07:002008-03-26T14:39:00.000-07:00Seeing the generational "curses" addictions passed...Seeing the generational "curses" addictions passed from one generation to the next--one can easily understand original sin. You did not choose the disease, but are left with it's effects--how hard is it to overcome them, and how inspirational your story will be to others--thanks for posting this Adrienne.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-28057878621860387122008-03-26T13:29:00.000-07:002008-03-26T13:29:00.000-07:00Thanks for doing this - I have a lot of questions ...Thanks for doing this - I have a lot of questions I hope will get answered.Terry Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09819523933502820341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-14180613135580251692008-03-26T05:54:00.000-07:002008-03-26T05:54:00.000-07:00What a wonderful first part to the story. It will ...What a wonderful first part to the story. It will give hope to many people.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03302870737482498357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-17256830590038060192008-03-26T02:25:00.000-07:002008-03-26T02:25:00.000-07:00The 12 steps are a wonderful tool. I use it just f...The 12 steps are a wonderful tool. I use it just for 'life'.<BR/>Accepting the 'Higher Power' is slowly proving a gentle balm to someone I love dearly. She came to Mass with us on Sunday. She has been going to Mass with her sponsor too. Say a prayer.WhiteStoneNameSeekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13817511811745085749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-5246043976184573772008-03-25T18:28:00.000-07:002008-03-25T18:28:00.000-07:00Adrienne-Romans 7:18 "I know that nothing good li...Adrienne-<BR/><BR/>Romans 7:18 "I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out."<BR/><BR/>Boy oh boy does that hit the nail on the head. I know that I can add my name to that giant collection of broken people and I thank God every day for the grace that He gives. God's Blessings to you and I look forward to the rest of this series.Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02037231556367647436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-33127523454720661142008-03-25T18:21:00.000-07:002008-03-25T18:21:00.000-07:00What a story. Perhaps it's these experiences or -...What a story. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps it's these experiences or - I should say - the WISDOM that came from the perseverance of these tumultuous times that I detect in so many of your posts.<BR/><BR/>Your words go beyond alcoholism into the deeper pathology of addiction, which so many people are afflicted with. Thank you for being so honest and sharing your experiences with the rest of us.<BR/><BR/>I had intended to write my own series of posts detailing the commonalities and differences between Eastern Catholics and Roman Catholic but, to be perfectly honest, I'd rather put those on hiatus and follow your chain of posts on this subject matter.Tom in Vegashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17821971426359725229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7404258237205868795.post-49724580826188174812008-03-25T15:48:00.000-07:002008-03-25T15:48:00.000-07:00Can't wait for Step 2!Can't wait for Step 2!the mother of this lothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04173598381711792094noreply@blogger.com